Weekend Puzzle #32

[Detective Bess]

-- Puzzle 32 --

How many people does it take to make a Nancy Drew game?

To find the answer, find the connection:

Mg + Be
Robinson Cano + millesimal fineness standard
Second Baseman + Saturn (rounded down)
XL - 111

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Good luck sleuths!

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Ideas:

For the Mg+Be, I think that the connection is that they are both elements...? Mg's atomic number is 12 and Be's atomic number is 4, so 12+4 = 16.

[cyndisa]

Thanks for posting this Detective Bess! I was thinking the same thing about the elements Mg & Be.

Robinson Cano is a player for the Yankees, and his number is 24. The millesimal fineness standard appears to be a numeric system for defining the purities of precious metals. The numbers vary based on how pure the metal is, with 999.99 being the highest for gold. It's interesting that 999 is the value for 24k gold. Maybe 999 is the number we need for the millesimal fineness standard, since Cano's number is 24.

The second baseman is a bit of mystery, except that second base is Cano's position with the Yankees. As to what number to assign for that, I'm not sure. Maybe we should use his player number, 24, for this one and use his age, 27, for the above mention? But I'm not sure how 27 would relate to the millesimal fineness standard. There are all kinds of numbers associated with Saturn, the most obvious of which is that it's the 6th planet from the sun. But why would we need to round that down, as instructed?

And for the last line, XL is obviously 40 in Roman numerals.

Now, my questions are:

What kind of connection do we need to establish between these things? (The two elements are clearly connected, but what about the rest?)
Maybe we're not supposed to establish a connection between the things horizontally but rather vertically? (Like find how all of the things mentioned first in the pairs are related in order to get the first number and then find how all of the things mentioned second in the pairs are related to get the second number?)
What kind of operations do we perform on them in order to get the final total? (i.e. Add them all until the last one and then subtract 111? Or maybe another way?)
Are we even looking for a number? (I would say "yes" but thought I'd throw out the question anyway.)

Have I confused anyone besides myself?

[belle_lover]

I completely understood your post, but maybe it's because I shared similar thoughts.

In regards to Saturn, I was wondering if it relates to distance from the sun? That's the only thing I can think of in regards to rounding down. But then I was stuck again with having it connect.

[Detective Bess]

I thought Robinson Cano sounded familiar Based on cyndisa's post, I'm thinking now that maybe the link between him and millesimal fineness standard might be his batting average? Since the millesimal fineness standard rates metals, batting averages sort of rate the baseball players? But I also like your idea that 24 might be the link...

I also like belle_lover's idea that the Saturn reference might be the distance from Saturn to the Sun. But, this is a huge number; and I doubt that that many people work on a ND game Great thought though! On a related note, perhaps we need to use the fact that Saturn is the 6th planet from the Sun? But there is no rounding in this...

[Tomtheninja]

Great job cyndisa and I am thinking that it all adds up to a number!

[Lucid Atray]

Originally Posted by Detective Bess

On a related note, perhaps we need to use the fact that Saturn is the 6th planet from the Sun? But there is no rounding in this...

Isn't Saturn the 6th planet around the Sun?

[Detective Bess]

Originally Posted by Lucid Atray

Isn't Saturn the 6th planet around the Sun?

That's actually a great alternate way to look at it But I'm still confused as to how to round down. But I just remembered that Saturn is surrounded by rings; while there are potentially hundreds of mini rings around Saturn, I believe there are only 7 main rings. This would certainly "round down" the number.

Another thought: Saturn could also refer to the car maker [and like how many models of cars they have; as for the round down part perhaps just the models they have now..?] Also Saturn could refer to the Saturn in Greek Mythology -- but I'm not sure about this one.

[CassandraBelic♫]

Saturn info:

orbit: 1,429, 400,000 km (9.54 AU) from sun
diameter: 120,536 km (equatorial)
Mass: 5.68e26 kg
*to be truthful, I'm not sure if the e means something or if it is a typo.
Gravity: 0.7

[Detective Bess]

The "e" means that the decimal point needs to be moved 26 places to the right. That would leave us 568 with 24 zeros after it! I doubt that many people work on a ND game But great sleuthing to find that information.

Do you have any ideas as to the Robinson Cano connection with millesimal fineness standard?

Edit-- Using CassandraBelic♫'s orbital information,

Originally Posted by belle_lover

it relates to distance from the sun?

what if we have to use the distance in AU? Rounding down it would be 9...? But what does this have to do with the second baseman??? This question would also apply to my theory that we might have to use the fact that Saturn has 7 main rings...

I guess we should first try to establish a connection between the two things? It would certainly limit the number of possibilities for the numbers we come up with...

Edit Again -- I like cyndisa's idea that they might be vertically related. We might need to find the millesimal fineness standard of Be and Hydrogen [the most abundant element in Saturn]...But then again, how is hydrogen a form of rounding down?

Edit Yet Again -- What if we do need to use the huge numbers; such as the actual distance or its actual mass? And the rounding down might refer to ignoring the zeros?

[all_4_you]

What if...

and I know this is a veryyy far stretch, but when I first saw "Second Baseman" I thought the answer was "What" because of the whole Abbot and Constello joke (i think it was them) the "Who's on first, what's on second..." joke. I don't know how it could fit, but maybe my idea will spark another one =)

[cyndisa]

My guess for the answer is

25

Of course, it might be

20

depending on how I "round down" Saturn.

Here are the numbers I'm using for this calculation. I'm adding all of them until the last number which looks like it should be subtracted.

Mg + Be 12 + 4 Robinson Cano + millesimal fineness standard 24 + 9 Second Baseman + Saturn (rounded down) 42 + 5 (rounded down from 6) XL - 111 40 - 111 equals 25 I used 9 for the millesimal fineness standard, because 999 seems way too large a number, but using 9 to define purity of metals is a standard. The millesimal fineness system rounds to a 3 digit number. (Have been wondering if that has anything to do with the "rounding" spoken of in regard to Saturn but so far haven't come up with anything concrete to support that thought.) I used 42 for "second baseman" because it was Jackie Robinson's number which is retired. Consequently, Robinson Cano was named after Jackie Robinson. About rounding down Saturn - of course, if I round Saturn's number 6 all the way down to 0, then the answer comes out as the lower number, 20.

I'm really not sure how all of these things connect. Going vertically, I can come up with speculations as to how the first column of things connect.

Take 12 and multiply it by 2 to get Robinson Cano's number 24. Take 24 and reverse the 2 numbers to get second baseman, Jackie Robinson's number 42. Take 42 and subtract 2 to get the Roman numeral 40. The number 2 seems to be a unifying number in all of those things.

But the second column doesn't have a readily noticeable pattern. The only thing that seemed to make sense for a while was the 3 digit rounding in the millesimal fineness standard, and the 3 digit number in the fourth line. Saturn's number 6 could be divided by 3. However, I can't find how the number 3 would work with Beryllium in any way - unless . . . Hmmm. I did find an article saying that the atomic nucleus of Beryllium is 3 times as large as normal. If we could connect them all using 3, then we might be able to say the answer to the puzzle is

23

But I'm not sure, because if they all connected by using the number 3, then why would we need to round down Saturn?

If we go horizontally, the first line connects because they're elements. The second line connects, because Cano and the millesimal fineness system are standards. (Cano being a standard is debatable I'm sure in the MLB world, but I'm not a baseball fan of any kind, so I can't vouch for or argue against it!) The third line connects because it talks of the "second" baseman and Saturn is the second largest planet in the solar system. The last line connects because . . . well . . . OK, I got nothing on that one!

Feels like I'm grasping at straws here . . . and making extremely lengthy posts! But, hey! I'd be glad to see someone else take my ideas (or other ideas) and answer the puzzle for us!

[CosetteRocks]

I just stumbled across this puzzle! Let's see if I can think of anything useful...

Well, It seems to me that mellesimal fitness standard should be 1.000. Though I don't think it's possible to have/maintain a perfect 1.000, it is the maximum of the range.

SO:

Mg + Be
Robinson Cano + millesimal fineness standard
Second Baseman + Saturn (rounded down)
XL - 111

Magnesium+berylium= 16
Robinson Cano would be either 24 or batting average .360 +1.00 (I'll just go with 24 and say 25)
Second Baseman (going with Robinson again) 24 + Saturn (Perhaps the parentheses denote rings? I know you guys mentioned this) Wikipedia tells me that Saturn's ring has 14 major divisions. Or perhaps it is the number with regards to MVEMJSUN(P) and so 6. It is the 2nd largest planet in the solar system. So, really, I have no clue.
XL - 111= -71

So, it is somewhere along the lines of: -6 + whatever Saturn's number is.

Sorry, that probably wasn't helpful!


EDIT
Is it XL- 111 or XL - III? (The AS font would probably make it look like l's and they were probably trying not to confuse us that way.) So it would actually be 37! Maybe this is a multiple choice question, so the answers don't connect at all, we just choose the best one! 16, 25, X, 37. So whatever Saturn's number is, it should fall between 25 and 37 when added to 2B. My guess is either 37 or X is our answer.

[cyndisa]

Well, the hint we got last night hasn't helped inspire any more ideas for me, so far. Here it is:

-- Puzzle 32 hint --

All 4 answers should end up the same

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Any ideas?

[all_4_you]

So with this clue, it sounds like

Each line is a seperate clue, and each clue equals the same number...lol it kind of reminds me of a magic box =)...anywho, so unless there is another solution for the first line, the answer looks like it would be 16...

I don't even know if that makes since, but hey--maybe if my theory is wrong someone else will get it =)

[CassandraBelic♫]

Or it could be

33

You get this number if you take the

atomic mass of both elements

Because isn't Robinson Cano

24

?